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of as irresponsible to not raise the debt ceiling. in my view, it is irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling in the absence of changing the way that we do business here, starting with the approval of the budget. thought to be compassionate to spend money. how can it be compassionate to spend money that is not yours? and for our country to have growth and economic opportunity, there is no question but what the debt and deficit is a drag on that opportunity. we have a responsibility as american citizens to right this wrong. >> i serve on the senate budget committee, and i can tell you, the most disappointing part of having served your the last two years is relatively new member, we have not done a budget for this country in the senate. it is incredibly disappointing. the senate democrats have not been willing to do the budget will we are over $16 trillion in debt. no the talk about the fact that the ipad has come into existence during the nearly four years that we have not had a budget. i happen to have a five year-old son. and so nearly most of his lifetime we have not had a budget for this c

taken a step back on this debt ceiling standoff. should it be raised. this is how "the new york times" described it over the weekend. i'll put it up on the screen and have you react to it. backing down from the hardline stance, house republicans said friday they would agree to lift the limit for three months with the requirement that both chambers of congress pass a budget in that time to clear the way for negotiations on long-term deficit reduction, to add muscle to the efforts to bring democrats to the table, they would include a provision in the debt ceiling legislation saying that lawmakers will not be paid if they do not pass a budget blueprint. was it right to step back from challenging the president over raising the debt ceiling? >> well, i think the house proposal is a step in the right direction. no doubt the senate hasn't done it's job. it's been nearly four years since it's passed a budget. but it doesn't go nearly far enough. we have a crisis. i just got back last week from afghanistan. and i had multiple servicemen and women clasp me on the arm and say, please do somethin

getting word that as expected the house will vote on the debt ceiling limit for another few months, pushing it back to may 19. the report on this possibility yesterday in washington for the inauguration, this this might be a face-saving gesture on the part of republicans to gather their duffs and buy some time with a president who at least for the time being is more popular than they. what do you make of the timing of this vote? -- and what they will gain? >> i think the republicans were concerned about public perception of them not doing anything and i think it's a bad idea. i mean, i think this kicks the can down the road. move people say, we want a solution today. we don't want to keep having this conversation. every couple of months, we talk about the debt ceiling, what good is a ceiling if you keep raising it and you don't make spending cuts to keep yourself under that number? it has no purpose. >> neil: i want to take a look at the corner of wall and broad. many argue the reason why it was up 62 points is the fact that, whew -- it's a relief they won't bring this to the brink

to the fact that they've moved off the fight on the debt ceiling a few months. he believes he can deal with them and, as you heard, get some kind of grand bargain. i need to be convinced of that, wolf. >> part two of your interview coming up later. >> he tells us, how does he know when the president is mad at him. >> interesting to see that. thank you. good work. >>> in a moment, the latest on the breaking news we've been following a shooting at a community college in houston, texas. there's going to be a news conference from the sheriff there. we'll update you with what is going on. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where, if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. and if you get into an accid

. we have the issue in washington about debt ceilings, sequester -- lou: love the way you articulated that. a lot of people call it, you know, the fools out in washington, but i love the elegance of your expression. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you, lou, good to be here. lou: come back soon. mike ryan, we appreciate it. up next, a government report shows high school graduation rates at a 35-year high. don't get excited. we'll tell you why in "chalk talk" tonight, because the case as with many federal stats are deceiving. we're coming right back. ♪ at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up som

the debt ceiling until may 19, then resetting the cap to cover any borrowing over the current limit-- $16.4 trillion. and for now, republicans will not force immediate spending cuts. the party's new strategy would achieve that goal by forcing congress to pass a budget. house budget committee chair-- and last year's vice presidential nominee-- paul ryan. >> here's the point, we have a law, it's called the budget act, it requires that congress passes a budget by april 15. all we're saying is, "congress, follow the law, do your work, budget. and the reason for this extension is so we can have the debate we need to have." >> ifill: as added incentive, the house bill says, if there is no budget, then lawmakers won't get paid. after it passed today by a bipartisan vote of 285 to 144, speaker boehner said he's optimistic that will happen. >> if both chambers have a budget. democrat budget from the senate, republican from the house now you've got competing visions, for how we address this problem. out of those competing visions, we're going to find some common ground. >> ifill: but house minority

to extent the debt ceiling until may. still needs agreement to avoid across the board spending cuts. >> peter marisi says bun thing holding tobacco guard growth is nature of investment. relatively few people flipping stocks in a way that doesn't send capital where it needs to go to grow the economy. >> bret: wendell goler, thank you. several democratic politicians trying to put a squeeze on gun manufacturerrers. correspondent shannon bream tells us this time gun control advocates are trying to pull a trigger on a different approach. >> as the police chief and sheriffs from around the country gathered at the white house to meet with president obama and discuss gun violence he put the onus on capitol hill. >> as we indicateed before, the only way we will be able to do everything that needs to be done is with the cooperation of congress. >> growing independent case it won't be easy sledding on the hill, number of obama allies across the country rolling out plans to go after the gun manufacturers and the financial backers. officials in california, illinois, new york, and pennsylvania pu

of tomorrow's voigte on the debt ceiling. is congressman mccarthy, i promoted you earlier. welcome back. >> thanks for having me. >> sean: and going back to the issue, we played it it, that's all that he said about the economy, 8.3 fewer americans are working today than there were four years ago, what is your reaction to that? >> well, just shows you how out of touch eghe is. normally when the president is reelected, remember, no landslide. you work together, find common ground and work ford. this person's goal is to break the republican party. he's out of touch where america is at and it's more of a speech after progressive party agenda not something for all of america to get behind. >> sean: how ironic, too, the president lecturing the americans on tone and did you remember of talking about mitt romney and a steel worker's wife? >> and when you work on a president's speech in the inaugural, you usually have a take away line. what is the take away line. normally when the election is over, it's time to govern, he moved the campaign committee going when he can't run for further office. t

they won the round because the debt ceiling will go up in may. without offsetting spending cuts. republicans counter getting the senate democrats to agree to a budget by april means for the first time in four years congress may be able to show some degree of real fiscal discipline. bret? >> bret: thank you. senate majority leader harry reid hopes to get a deal done soon with republicans over new filibuster rules. they want to require senators to be present when they filibuster. republicans are resisting that. reid hinted he may use the so-called nuclear option to change the rules, with a simple majority of 51 votes instead of the usual two-third. the dow continued its momentum, up for a fourth day if a row today. industrial average gained 67. to reach the highest closing value since halloween of 2007. the s&p 500 finished ahead two. the nasdaq increased 10-1/2. we will hear from the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee a bit later. up next, why you are giving a powerful weapon to enemy of a friend. [ male announcer ] ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you

payne sick you. don't like this. >> absolutely not. i think the debt ceiling punt was the latest example of this. the president says, if we don't do this the market is going to implode and congress puts its tail between it legs. i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we don't keep spending ourselves to death. >> i agree. congressmen have basically sent a message that today is not the day we're going to stop spending our children's and grandchildren's money, and charles is exactly right. the reason why our credit got downgraded is because of our out of control spending and out of control debt. the fiscal cliff deal even we just witnessed, it's such -- added four trillion dollars to our deficit over the next ten years. so, congress is not serious about reigning in spending and that's exactly when the we need to too. >> but

. and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budget in days. i think they're trying to make the best of a bad situation. absolutely w

the debt ceiling until may. law americas won't get paid if they fail to pass a budget. >> american families have to do a budget. they understand you can't continue to spend money you don't have. we are committed to doing a budget on the house side that will balance over the neck ten years as time for the senate and president to show the american people how they are willing to balance a budget ore the next ten years. >> the democratic controlled senate is expect to do approve the debt bill. it has not pass add budget in four years. >> phil mickelson wasn't talking about his guolf game. he was teeing off over another apology about his tax comments. >> i have made some dumb, dumb mistakes and obviously talking about this stuff is one of them. my apology is for talking about it publicly. i shouldn't take advantage of the forum that i have as a professional golfer to try to ignite change. >> mickelson hinted earlier this week he may leave california or the united states because of how much he's paying in taxes. california has a new tax rate of 13.3 percent. that is your 5@5:00. >> tiger woods mo

that in eight years. the props for the market show that hopes for a debt ceiling will happen. germany and china are looking pretty good. you mention the corporate earnings. 68% of the companies are beating expectations. the questions you raise are very relevant. questions about whether the etf money is still coming into the market. durable goods and home sales and on wednesday we get the gdp figures which could keep the rally. >> we always keep tabs on the auto industry. pretty big news overnight from toyota? >> yes. they're number one globally between 2008 and 2010 in terms of vehicles sold. they got that crown back again this year in 2012 with 9.75 million vehicles sold. what's amazing about their retaking the number one position is they did it without china. they saw a 4.9% drop in china because of a territorial dispute between china and japan. they are looking for above average growth in 2013. very impressive status. >> steve, thank you very much. steve sedgwick, live in london. let us know why you're awake. give us an e-mail or tweet us@bshacklin. we'll read the best responses. still on "w

months into question. this week the republican party put forward a plan on the debt ceiling in debt and appears to have won the support of both the president and senate majority leader. the republican change in direction and tone was not matched by a change in the republican party's lead. the rnc reelected the chairman after losing both the white house and ten seats in congress to democrats in that 2012 election. his job as head of the national party even as lenient -- louisiana's popular governor and from a republican both cried out for the party's revitalization, new ideas, and the voices. obama administration stalwart treasury secretary gagger and secretary of state clinton bidding farewell to the administration. clinton finally this week testifying on benghazi, trying to explain away one of the administration's biggest failures. another week in which president obama has dispatched vice-president biden to campaign against the second amendment. the president's inaugural this week. next week he launches his campaign for comprehensive immigration reform. next week senator kerry to b

backed off that so you didn't get that outcome. at the same time, they've pushed off the debt ceiling for a few months. so the body language out of washington has been more constellatory. so when you get to this point where you think about what the deficit might look like this year, i don't think you're going to be looking at a balanced budget so soon. you can't sustain trillion dollar deficiter year after year after year doubling the debt so many years and still think that the market is going to accept that over time. they know the market needs to move away from this, but it's going to away longer process. >> kevin and mike will be with us for the rest of the hour. >> and it's time for the global markets report. kelly evans is standing by in london. i could string up a lot of thing to talk to you about, kelly. you're very close to davos. i don't know. we -- i don't really feel like i've missed anything, really. but you're still close. you could have jetted over there easily and joined in with, you know, john legend and charlie thero this e, andrew ross sorkin. >> i was hoping maybe s

the debt ceiling to another we three months tied to pay. what is the strategy? >> i don't think the g.o.p. have one. i saw a high ranking aide to the house leadership this weekend and he told me that --. >> hobnobbing with powerful people. >> they said they turned the corner and this was a shrewd move. i see it as you, a real problem that indicates that at best the republicans have tactical responses. bottom line, the spot getting his way. >> shell shocked from the election or leaderless or both or what? >> all of it. they did not think they would lose as badly as they did right up to election night. they have never gotten a handle on why, and we have a faction of hard right tea party people in the republican caucus in the house that will not let the moderate members, even really talk to obama, talking or compromise is out. >> was there an agenda missing? >> growing the economy. >> they are the most strategic group of people. though can not figure out what they believe in and how to fight obama. >> are they on the wrong side of social issues? >> shear what they should do. they could b

republicans pushed through a bill to extend the debt ceiling and tying congressional pay to passage of the budget. senate majority leader says he is okay with it. outgoing defense secretary leon panetta is changing policy to allow women to serve in front line combat positio positions. we'll get a live update for the pentagon. your tax dollars are sending f-16 planes to egypt despite anti-semattic comments made by egypt's new leader. busy day on "special report" at 6:00 eastern but now back to "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: you were saying? >> dana: so, greg, almost just caused a problem on the show. >> greg: no, i didn't. >> dana: yes, you did. wow! he doesn't know the words to that song and he was making them up. there is a certain word that rhymes with "truck" he was going to sing. i was supposed to talk about facebook and social media how it can be a blessing and a curse. we talk about this the other day. so, remember back in high school, if you found out that your friend invited another friend go to an event but you didn't necessarily know about it right away. it wasn't rubbed in y

a deal on this. there will be a lot of pressure to do that. republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling. that took away a little bit of their leverage going into negotiations at the end of february. here comes paul ryan. where has he been? he is making this line in the sand now. i think the white house is concerned because this could hurt the economy going forward if we go through these deep cuts and right now the white house is saying we need to keep the economy moving. we have to keep all eyes on that and continue to have growth and jobs. there is concern for the white house. >> ryan took one of his famous charts on "meet the press." you can tell immediately what he thinks the problem is, more spending cuts are needed. paul ryan says increasing revenue is off the table for now. the gop, the tax hikes during the fiscal cliff stuff. do they do it again? >> he was also asked and side stepped whether or not you could close loopholes. it is another way to get revenue. that is what david gregory asked him. he had a nonresponse response to that. there are other ways to get revenue than acros

the wilderness by saying let's not fight over the debt ceiling and procedural matters. let's have our big fights about substantive budget issues down the road. trying to tell the more adamant tea party members that they have to get real if they're going to win again. >> i love the fact that paul ryan is emerging as that voice that's going to sort of shape and form the ground on which this new effort by the party will stand. here's the dance. the dance, though, is the rhetoric is one thing. you have the washington class talking and saying what we have to do, and we're going to do this, and rubio and the crew are going to roll out on immigration issue today. that's all great. how does the typical tea party activist respond? are they ready to make that move? do they believe that it's credible? do they believe that this undermines or augments our principles and what they believe and we believe to be an important part of this discussion as much as the effort at outreach and the effort of making the right soundbyte. have to marry that up. there's one thing for the leadership to go out and say this is

, today republicans in the house are expected to vote on a plan that's going to defuse the debt ceiling crisis at least temporarily. republicans are planning to offer legislation that will suspend the enforcement of the federal debt limit for at least three months, allowing the government to keep borrowing money to pay for all of its current obligations. in exchange, the house gop'ers want the democratic-controlled senate to do something they haven't done in 1,365 days, pass a budget. something that body hasn't done since 2009. now, instead of demanding spending cuts, republicans have added a provision to the bill that would suspend lawmakers' own paychecks if their chamber fails to pass a budget by april 15th. that's a lot like actually the no labels, no budget, no pay plan that that organization's been dealing with, talking about for a long time. michael steele, i think that's a great idea. >> i do, too. >> if you don't do your job -- >> why get paid for it? >> and the democrats in the senate haven't done their job in that many days, why pay them? >> i don't think you should. in fact,

any we face. we will find it to the cult dissolve any other problems we are facing. debt ceilings, issues of healthcare. proverbs notes this, without a vision, the people perish. they do not literally perish. they just bicker and fight and become so polarized they cannot get anything done. we are in need of a new common, national vision. not once only democratic or solely republican. we need at least one goal where we can come together. that is where we need to go. god has given you a unique gift, mr. president. you have the ability to cast vision and inspire people. you should have been a preacher. [laughter] [applause] god actually has you exactly where god wants you. yesterday you begin to lay out a vision for us in your inaugural address was very powerful and compelling. somewhere we have got to find and forge one or two that dreams or visions that people on the right and they left, republicans and democrats, can come together and back hands on this. you hinted towards that yesterday. we have to remember our picture of the promised land. when we do that, anything is possible i

strongly believe in really far right views. and they're willing to go over the -- to let the debt ceiling collapse. they were willing to shut down the government. that's not really the kind of thing that -- that speaks to a new direction for this party. >> john, we're talking about immigration reform, right, today. is this the pivot point. is this where you might see republicans come together with democrats? >> it could be. i do think, though, i've seen this before where the senate come up with a plan without any input from the house. and then the house decides not to do it. >> right. >> i think this is the problem. that you've got to have cooperation. i do think there are some ways you can make it easier for people to get citizenship without actually getting into amnesty. and i think that finding that trick is going to be difficult but can be achieved. i do think that for republicans, it makes a lot of sense strategically to get immigration passed. if we're going to have a good conversation with hispanic voters, we can't do it in the context of holding up immigration reform. it also has

't produced one in almost years. on may 19th is what the debt ceiling has been extended to. what paul ryan is saying is that whatever bill comes out of the senate will call for more taxes and republicans in the house will not accept that. and if that then is the case then you get the cuts to the defense department and medicare. do i have that right? >> that is fundamentally correct. what we are looking at and what we'll see is whether or not the democrats in the senate insist that they sequester would be altered only by raising taxes and that is not going to happen. we j a $650 billion tax increase we are not going to do another one. these were cuts in law and they need to be altered. the president in his debate with governor romney said the sequester will not happen, and he's got to step up and help us work our way through that, because it does cut too much, in my opinion, the defense department. they've already had a big cut. this will be another big cut. and i think it's dangerous for the defense department and will do damage in a way that we should not do. bill: i mentioned the senate

. that has to change. [applause] now, the house won't consider another debt ceiling increase unless the senate passes a budget. and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and their reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. and if we take the prudent course, you know what? we'll be in really good company. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder, the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention, he lost some key arguments. you know, he fought the plan to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he tho

emanuel is live on capitol hill with more. when we take up the debt ceiling deal? reporter: the senate is likely to take up the bill some time next week. they are required to pass a budget by april 15. bottom line, fiscal conservative senators are loving it. >> they have really written some good budgets, tough budget that they have defended, but the democratic senate has just a few. they say send more money. they need the american people to send more money. we don't need a budget to tell you where the money is going to be. so i think that they understand. >> some are complaining that the senate democrats refused to do about it for three years in a row. finally, now that the house has passed the measure and we start to hear the senate democrats saying that they are going to do a budget. jon: is part of that deal, they are required to pass it by april 15, or else no budget and no pay. they will ultimately get paid down the road, but for those who are not part of the millionaires club, no paycheck, even in the short term. arthel: what are the democrats in the senate saying? are you feelin

worries the price of energy, government regulations and the federal debt ceiling. in a separate questionnaire, owners flagged concerns for not hiring. 6 out of 10 said again wore areries about the potential cost of healthcare but three other reasons for not adding workers topped that. the reasons they gave, 81% said they do not need additional help. three quarters blamed revenues and sales. and two thirds point to worries about the overall u.s. economy. that said, there are some bright spots in the survey. overall, u.s. small biz owners optimistic with their environment this month. the small business index jumped to a positive number plus nine after plummeting to negative 11 in the last quarter. that was taken right after the presidential election. still, owner optimism is far below the recent high in april of last year. the bottom line, the bottom line of our nation's biggest hirers is making them worry about adding new workers and it is healthcare costs that are keeping them from putting out the help wanted sign. shannon, back to you. >> shannon: brenda, thank you very much. >

the debt ceiling increase. just as it would be to raise the debt ceiling without any meaningful cuts, just as senator phil graham got back in 1985 i believe it was, with graham-rudman -- graham rudman and so many of the debt increases that accompanied that was part of the deal with restrictions on spending. there are so many things going on in the world today that are just staggering. we know we have secretary of state, hillary clinton, testifying today. one report here today says that secretary clinton quickly interrupted one senator that contradict him and stress that she did not see request for additional security to protect the benghazi mission. extremely unfortunate. that people in our state department committed to helping to this country would make cries for help over a period of months, over a period of years, even going back to when ambassador rice was with the state department, and people were killed an american embassy request had been made for extra security that went unheeded. here it came again and apparently there were a number of people that made requests, including one of t

turning point for this president was that debt debate over the debt ceiling in july and august of 2011 and there an opportunity there and it came close, and i will not ascribe blame because there is probably enough going around when it looked like the president and john boehner were able to make a grand bargain, 3, $4 trillion in deficit reduction, it fell apart and rightly or wrongly it seems clear that the president and the white house decided at that point, we can't do business with these guys. boehner can't control the tea party element in his own house. and we're going to have to start running for president and running for president, pushing a liberal agenda. really from mid-summer, boehner says from labor day of 2011, he was very much running for president, pushing the liberal agenda. he was the protector of the middle class. and it is continued up through his re-election and now we see it in his inaugural address, very little talk about common ground. you know he basically dismissed his republican opposition as absolutism, as name-calling. i think you will see a very aggressive,

of the debt ceiling and trying to avoid the fiscal cliff showed congress at its worst. chambliss served two terms in the senate. he anchored some conservative activists with his attempts to find a bipartisan solution to the nation's debt problem. >>> playing the lottery might become impossible for some people in north carolina. here's why. a state lawmaker wants to ban people receiving government assistance or those who have declared bankruptcy from playing. republican representative paul stan is helping to draft this legislation. he says welfare money should be used to help people survive, not for gambling. critics say everyone should be able to play. ♪ what's love got to do with it ♪ >> great song. >>> singing legend tina turner is saying good-bye to her u.s. citizenship and will soon be a citizen of switzerland. she is 73 years old. she moved to switzerland in 1995 with her long time partner and says she cannot imagine a better place to live. she needs at proval of the swiss federal authorities to make this official. >>> the vice president takes his gun violence task force to a virgi

the inauguration to a deal on the debt ceiling to the president naming a new chief of staff. we wanted to focus on a few others that caught our attention. first, secretary of state hillary clinton on capitol hill. she was testifying about the attack in benghazi that left four americans dead. now at one point clinton angrily snapped at republican senator ron johnson who wanted to know why the exact origin of the attack should have been revealed much earlier. >> what difference at this point does it make? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything to prevent to from happening again. >> joining me now, cnn contributor maria cardona and amy holmes, anchor of "real news" on "the blaze." maria, you used to work for hillary clinton. are you proud of your former boss? >> these did -- she did an amazing job. it was vintage hillary clinton. look, her performance this week, it was so many things. she was unequivocal in taking responsibility for what happened which is absolutely the right thing to do and something she did from the first -- the get-go. she was deficit in deflection of quest

in spending cuts we can't lose those spending cuts. that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase let alone any future increases. >> reporter: one of the nation's largest federal contractors, general dynamics based in fall's church, virginia, announced a $2 billion loss which it is blaming on defense cuts and falling government demand. >> draconian measures will have to be taken, furloughs, layoffs in the defense industry but most importantly to me, a devastating blow to our national security if the sequestration takes place. and it is up to congress and the president to act together and frankly so far i have not seen the kind of urgency that many of us feel about sequestration and, its implementation report so it seems with the war being wound down in afghanistan, the real fight begins at home for tighter bum jets. jamie? jamie: those civilians play an important role. thanks. jon: take a look at this. a brush with death for a guy on a motorcycle, when a big-rig truck flips over and nearly crushes him. jamie: whoa. jon: yeah, that amazing video, where it happened. we'll tell you about

passed yesterday? that is get a budget in three months or don't get paid? and we'll up the debt ceiling? >> i will. i also think that it's important that we get this issue behind us. we get the sequestration stopped. we get this whole fiscal cliff, cr addressed, the continuing resolution keeping the government in business because it just sends a wrong message to businessmen and women, small and large in our country. we need to have a path to a balanced budget and we need to cut spending and we need to reform entitlements. that's what we need to do. >> alisyn: senator, let's talk about what happened on capitol hill yesterday with secretary clinton, came in front of you to talk about benghazi. what did you learn yesterday? >> not much. not much. she was feisty, according to the main stream media. she obviously has an adoring media. she really didn't answer any questions. her response to senator johnson about whether there was a spontaneous demonstration or not, saying it didn't matter. it didn't matter how these people died? that was stunning. that was really stunning. of course it matter

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